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		<title>Comment on Open Source Software - a Chink in the Armour by Richard Smith</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2008/05/open-source-software-a-chink-in-the-armour/#comment-228</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 10:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Firstly, vendors should not be fixing problems (or, really, anything) in open source packages by patching them locally - they should contribute their patches upstream to the package maintainers. Had Debian done this in this case, we (the OpenSSL Team) would have fallen about laughing, and once we had got our breath back, told them what a terrible idea this was."

Well, the error was introduced into Debian on 2nd May 2006 by Kurk Roeckx in this commit:

http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-openssl/openssl/trunk/rand/md_rand.c?rev=141&#38;r1=140&#38;r2=141

The previous day, he posted an email to the openssl-dev list asking whether this patch would be sensible:

http://marc.info/?l=openssl-dev&#38;m=114651085826293&#38;w=2

A few hours later, Ulf Möller responded that he was in favour of the patch.

http://marc.info/?l=openssl-dev&#38;m=114652287210110&#38;w=2

According to the OpenSSL webpage, Ulf Möller is a member of the OpenSSL development team:

http://openssl.org/about/

... and has been for quite a some time

http://web.archive.org/web/20000815074639/www.openssl.org/about/

I wonder whether the OpenSSL team are still "falling around laughing".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Firstly, vendors should not be fixing problems (or, really, anything) in open source packages by patching them locally - they should contribute their patches upstream to the package maintainers. Had Debian done this in this case, we (the OpenSSL Team) would have fallen about laughing, and once we had got our breath back, told them what a terrible idea this was.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the error was introduced into Debian on 2nd May 2006 by Kurk Roeckx in this commit:</p>
<p><a href="http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-openssl/openssl/trunk/rand/md_rand.c?rev=141&amp;r1=140&amp;r2=141" rel="nofollow">http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-openssl/openssl/trunk/rand/md_rand.c?rev=141&amp;r1=140&amp;r2=141</a></p>
<p>The previous day, he posted an email to the openssl-dev list asking whether this patch would be sensible:</p>
<p><a href="http://marc.info/?l=openssl-dev&amp;m=114651085826293&amp;w=2" rel="nofollow">http://marc.info/?l=openssl-dev&amp;m=114651085826293&amp;w=2</a></p>
<p>A few hours later, Ulf Möller responded that he was in favour of the patch.</p>
<p><a href="http://marc.info/?l=openssl-dev&amp;m=114652287210110&amp;w=2" rel="nofollow">http://marc.info/?l=openssl-dev&amp;m=114652287210110&amp;w=2</a></p>
<p>According to the OpenSSL webpage, Ulf Möller is a member of the OpenSSL development team:</p>
<p><a href="http://openssl.org/about/" rel="nofollow">http://openssl.org/about/</a></p>
<p>&#8230; and has been for quite a some time</p>
<p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20000815074639/www.openssl.org/about/" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/20000815074639/www.openssl.org/about/</a></p>
<p>I wonder whether the OpenSSL team are still &#8220;falling around laughing&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Misinformation on the Internet by simpleigh.com - blog &#187; Open Source Software - a Chink in the Armour</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2008/05/misinformation-on-the-internet/#comment-227</link>
		<dc:creator>simpleigh.com - blog &#187; Open Source Software - a Chink in the Armour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 16:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] course not all of that is true, and you can&#8217;t always believe what you read on the Internet. Google isn&#8217;t evil but colludes with dictatorships to oppress [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] course not all of that is true, and you can&#8217;t always believe what you read on the Internet. Google isn&#8217;t evil but colludes with dictatorships to oppress [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Plugging myself by simpleigh.com - blog &#187; Wordpress</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2006/04/plugging-myself/#comment-224</link>
		<dc:creator>simpleigh.com - blog &#187; Wordpress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 22:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hardest bit was dealing with my blogroll. This is auto generated by Bloglines, as I described a while ago. Annoyingly Bloglines spits out a bit of HTML with each link contained within a &#60;div&#62; [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Nazi Germany: an argument technique? by simpleigh.com - blog &#187; Further reading - Godwin&#8217;s Law</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2008/05/nazi-germany-an-argument-technique/#comment-212</link>
		<dc:creator>simpleigh.com - blog &#187; Further reading - Godwin&#8217;s Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] recently discussed the strategy of comparing one&#8217;s antagonist&#8217;s actions to those of the Nazis, I was [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Interesting Thoughts - and Dawkins by Oliver Hall</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2006/11/interesting-thoughts-and-dawkins/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I still think that atheism is as much a faith-based position as theism"&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You should read the book. Dawkins talks about this, by using a scale from absolute faith in God at one end to absolute 'faith' that there is no God at the other. He points out that there a good deal of Christians at the one extreme, but very few people (not even himself) at the other, for the very reason that you can't prove that something doesn't exist. Existence of the celestial teapot or the Flying Spaghetti monster can equally not be disproved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I still think that atheism is as much a faith-based position as theism&#8221;</p>
<p>You should read the book. Dawkins talks about this, by using a scale from absolute faith in God at one end to absolute &#8216;faith&#8217; that there is no God at the other. He points out that there a good deal of Christians at the one extreme, but very few people (not even himself) at the other, for the very reason that you can&#8217;t prove that something doesn&#8217;t exist. Existence of the celestial teapot or the Flying Spaghetti monster can equally not be disproved.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thought for the day by Percy</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2006/11/thought-for-the-day/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Percy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely *no* 17 year olds die in their 17th year - or else they'd still be sixteen. 18th year maybe....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely *no* 17 year olds die in their 17th year - or else they&#8217;d still be sixteen. 18th year maybe&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Google Spreadsheet by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2006/06/google-spreadsheet/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, google is a bad little boy !</description>
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		<title>Comment on Panda Porn? by Crumbs</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2006/11/panda-porn/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Crumbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An Organ Scholar talking about panda porn; this day couldn't get any better.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Thought for the day by simple57uk</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2006/11/thought-for-the-day/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>simple57uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, that's true. The average does vary depending upon the time of year. If your example were true then the average would be quite low in October and peak in August. But if we marginalise with respect to this variable - i.e. take the average across every day of the year - then I think we end up back with the original statement. (Although as RAS pointed out, since several 17yos must die during their 17th year, then the average will be slightly lower).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It's true very few people have three or more legs. I did hear about an interesting operation to save a chap's hand where they couldn't re-attach it immediately due to infection and muck in the wound. Therefore they attached his hand to his groin to keep it alive for a while.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;All good fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, that&#8217;s true. The average does vary depending upon the time of year. If your example were true then the average would be quite low in October and peak in August. But if we marginalise with respect to this variable - i.e. take the average across every day of the year - then I think we end up back with the original statement. (Although as RAS pointed out, since several 17yos must die during their 17th year, then the average will be slightly lower).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true very few people have three or more legs. I did hear about an interesting operation to save a chap&#8217;s hand where they couldn&#8217;t re-attach it immediately due to infection and muck in the wound. Therefore they attached his hand to his groin to keep it alive for a while.</p>
<p>All good fun.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thought for the day by Percy</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2006/11/thought-for-the-day/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Percy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's not necessarily true - there probably isn't an even distribution of seventeen year olds across that 18th year - it might be that considerably more were born in (say) September that any other month, so the average seventeen year old would be less than seventeen and a half.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A more interesting fact (I think) is that the average person has less than two legs - lots of people have one (or none), whereas very few people have three or more....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not necessarily true - there probably isn&#8217;t an even distribution of seventeen year olds across that 18th year - it might be that considerably more were born in (say) September that any other month, so the average seventeen year old would be less than seventeen and a half.</p>
<p>A more interesting fact (I think) is that the average person has less than two legs - lots of people have one (or none), whereas very few people have three or more&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CICCU on Sex - This should be fun by serena</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2006/11/ciccu-on-sex-this-should-be-fun/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>serena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couple of points, probably not very new but worth stating anyway:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;"The Bible is sufficient evidence that God's outlook on and involvement with humanity quite clearly has changed."&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I would probably disagree with this; I would argue that the Bible charts different UNDERSTANDINGS of God through the ages.  As you have already noted, the Bible was written over a very long time.  None of us is able to fully know God, therefore each author of the Bible has a different perspective on God.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As concerns homosexuality, I went to a very good talk at Greenbelt by a Catholic theologian who argued that OT condemnations of homosexuality are linked with issues of hospitality and right treatment of guests.  There is also an underlying cultural assumption that gay sexual acts have nothing to do with loving relationships; thus these passages are pretty much irrelevant to a debate concerning loving, monogamous relationships between two people of the same sex.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also, if CICCU was so "biblical", it would have to agree with the Catholic Church's official line on contraception; I suspect the only reason it doesn't is because it is *gasp* Catholic!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Excuse my bigotry; you know how hard I find it to be charitable towards CICCU.  Adrian Plass once said that it would be easy to be a Christian, were it not for other people ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple of points, probably not very new but worth stating anyway:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Bible is sufficient evidence that God&#8217;s outlook on and involvement with humanity quite clearly has changed.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would probably disagree with this; I would argue that the Bible charts different UNDERSTANDINGS of God through the ages.  As you have already noted, the Bible was written over a very long time.  None of us is able to fully know God, therefore each author of the Bible has a different perspective on God.</p>
<p>As concerns homosexuality, I went to a very good talk at Greenbelt by a Catholic theologian who argued that OT condemnations of homosexuality are linked with issues of hospitality and right treatment of guests.  There is also an underlying cultural assumption that gay sexual acts have nothing to do with loving relationships; thus these passages are pretty much irrelevant to a debate concerning loving, monogamous relationships between two people of the same sex.</p>
<p>Also, if CICCU was so &#8220;biblical&#8221;, it would have to agree with the Catholic Church&#8217;s official line on contraception; I suspect the only reason it doesn&#8217;t is because it is *gasp* Catholic!</p>
<p>Excuse my bigotry; you know how hard I find it to be charitable towards CICCU.  Adrian Plass once said that it would be easy to be a Christian, were it not for other people &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Terrorists in Britain by Phil</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2006/10/terrorists-in-britain/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 06:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bien dit!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Swindon (again) by md</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2006/10/swindon-again/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>md</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 01:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it was a shame they'd ended up with 14 ringers and i'd been subbed out of that, else it would have had a "sue marshall" score of 4, rather than 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it was a shame they&#8217;d ended up with 14 ringers and i&#8217;d been subbed out of that, else it would have had a &#8220;sue marshall&#8221; score of 4, rather than 3.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thinking by simple57uk</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2006/10/thinking/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>simple57uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 11:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, corrected.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Thinking by serena</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2006/10/thinking/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>serena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 09:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Millennium ...</description>
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		<title>Comment on Swindon by simple57uk</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2006/09/swindon/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>simple57uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes OK, trueish. But the places around the treble mean that the bells pass it in a random order. This mixing up means that it's harder to get music off the front. Looking at the first lead, the treble passes the bells in the order 26408ET7953. Compare this to 243579ETO68. While the treble is in the middle of the change, the bells pass it in a sensible order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes OK, trueish. But the places around the treble mean that the bells pass it in a random order. This mixing up means that it&#8217;s harder to get music off the front. Looking at the first lead, the treble passes the bells in the order 26408ET7953. Compare this to 243579ETO68. While the treble is in the middle of the change, the bells pass it in a sensible order.</p>
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		<title>Comment on For those who use contact lenses by Kate</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2006/09/for-those-who-use-contact-lenses/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never throw strops, as well you know!  But there was no need to put such a provocative comment at the end without thinking the issue through.</description>
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		<title>Comment on For those who use contact lenses by simple57uk</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2006/09/for-those-who-use-contact-lenses/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>simple57uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 16:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All right, there's no need to throw a strop about it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To be honest, I was just looking for a way to communicate said article to you without posting a message saying "and here's a link for Kate."&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There's no need to grasp the wrong end of the stick quite so violently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All right, there&#8217;s no need to throw a strop about it.</p>
<p>To be honest, I was just looking for a way to communicate said article to you without posting a message saying &#8220;and here&#8217;s a link for Kate.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no need to grasp the wrong end of the stick quite so violently.</p>
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		<title>Comment on For those who use contact lenses by Kate</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2006/09/for-those-who-use-contact-lenses/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I already knew about that story, although according to my optician, the problem was only in one batch of ReNu and none was actually sold in the UK.  There was also a recall on all Bausch and Lomb products.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think it's very easy to cast aspersions on contact lenses when you have perfect eyesight. In five years of wearing lenses I've never had any problems with them, or suffered eye infections, and know nobody who has.  Contact lenses tend to give better vision than glasses, as well as offering a convenient and safe alternative to people (like me) who don't want to wear glasses full-time.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Perhaps if you ever get told your vision's failing, you'll be less disparaging of contact lens wearers on the basis of one (somewhat over-dramatic) article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already knew about that story, although according to my optician, the problem was only in one batch of ReNu and none was actually sold in the UK.  There was also a recall on all Bausch and Lomb products.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s very easy to cast aspersions on contact lenses when you have perfect eyesight. In five years of wearing lenses I&#8217;ve never had any problems with them, or suffered eye infections, and know nobody who has.  Contact lenses tend to give better vision than glasses, as well as offering a convenient and safe alternative to people (like me) who don&#8217;t want to wear glasses full-time.</p>
<p>Perhaps if you ever get told your vision&#8217;s failing, you&#8217;ll be less disparaging of contact lens wearers on the basis of one (somewhat over-dramatic) article.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s been a while&#8230; by Kate</title>
		<link>http://blog.simpleigh.com/2006/09/its-been-a-while/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but you obviously don't know how to spell Anglesey, whether it's you writing the post or your inner child...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So, no, I don't comprende.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but you obviously don&#8217;t know how to spell Anglesey, whether it&#8217;s you writing the post or your inner child&#8230;</p>
<p>So, no, I don&#8217;t comprende.</p>
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